Dale returns the favor today by giving Caralee the week off as he talks with Jon Sanders about some of the things he learned recently at a special training in Mississippi called Tactical-Resilience Protocol (TRP) and Emotions-Management Process (EMP) from 22Zero.org. Although the focus was specifically on the effects of PTSD in first responders and the military, Jon helps us see how most pastors are dealing with the same kinds of emotional issues.
We dive into how trauma affects the nervous system requiring intentional focus to “put the trauma in its place.” Everyone has a basic fight, flight, freeze, or fake response to ongoing traumatic situations. The honest transparency shared by Jon and Dale makes this podcast one you’ll want to share with anyone working through emotional discouragement.
Links to Resources Mentioned or Related
- Website: The Retreat at Church Creek
- Podcast: The Cumulative Effects of Trauma and How to Begin to Heal w/ Conrad Weaver
- Podcast: Dale’s Turning 60! Reflections on the Past 40 Years of Ministry
- Order Jon’s Book: Rural Church Rescue
- Podcast: The Unseen Emotional Impact of the Pandemic on Leaders w/ Karl Vaters
- Podcast: Dale’s Unexpected Sabbatical and Reflections
- Website: 22 Zero – Healing The Hero
- Email Jon Sanders here: Mailto:Jon@95network.org
- 95Network – Soul Care Essentials
- 95Network – Healthy Church Assessment
- Use code PODCAST to get 10% off anything in our store!
- Read Stalled: Hope and Help for Pastors Who Thought They’d Be There By Now
- Watch Podcast on YouTube
1) God has uniquely wired our brains to help us receive healing from traumatic experiences. There are a lot of new studies that continue to confirm that there has to be an intentional effort or process engaged for us to experience health after a traumatic event.
2) It’s not healthy to compare trauma from one person to another. Trauma is trauma. It doesn’t matter the “source” of your trauma whether it’s from vocational situations or even your upbringing. There’s no benefit in “downplaying” your trauma just because it doesn’t sound as serious as someone else’s.
3) God has promised rest for his people. However, many pastors and leaders often confess that rest is something that eludes them. They often confess that they find it difficult to “shut everything down” when they are attempting to rest.
4) The value of going back and looking at our childhood isn’t to place blame on our parents for how they raised us. They too are products of their family history and upbringing. The purpose of looking back is to discover moments where many of the traumatic experiences we deal with today started.
5) Do you know your ACES score? ACES stands for Adverse Childhood Experiences Score. Jon takes us through the 10 questions used to determine where you stand when it comes to this important survey.
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