I'm really excited to be sharing this conversation today. It was such an honor to connect with Derwin Gray, former NFL player and Lead Pastor of Transformation Church, a multiethnic, multigenerational, mission-shaped community in Indian Land, SC.
Not only is this a timely episode with it being Election Week in the U.S., but this episode just brought life to my soul and reminders of the mission we're all actually on. Derwin truly is one of the most grounded, thoughtful, and balanced leaders I've met.
In today's episode, he shares his thoughts about measuring success in a ministry, how we should be leading through this year's election, why he applies so much energy and thought into Generation Z, and why traditional evangelicalism is being challenged, pushed, and reshaped.
This is a good one. It's a must-listen this week. And it's definitely a conversation starter with your leadership and friends in ministry.
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Dale is the Executive Director here at 95Network and the author of Stalled: Hope and Help for Pastors Who Thought They'd Be There By Now. He has been in ministry for 40 years and is dedicated to helping small and mid-size churches get healthy. Dale has served in nearly every role of church leadership (except Worship Pastor), and has had a wide variety of coaching and consulting experience. He and his wife Gina have been married almost 40 years and live in Greenville, SC.